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PM pushing.tin
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pushing.tin
28th Jan 2015 10:33:02

The new GWSH scenario book has lots of cavalry involvement (up to a Corps of French and German a side), is there any interest in expanding the types of cavalry available? I would be interested in French Dragoons with lances and Curiassiers (mounted and dismounted versions) as well as German Hussars and Dragoons with lances (also mounted and dismounted versions). Also in 1914 all artillery is 'on-board' so I would be interested in some limbers for French, German and BEF.

 


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dourpuritan
28th Jan 2015 10:57:41

I would also be very interested in extra cavalry, including British lancers. Where relevant they should also have dismounted. Limbers are also a good idea in which I would be interested.


PM shawnt63
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shawnt63
28th Jan 2015 08:11:03

Agree with all the above and would definately buy them, Would like to include Belgians! Carabinier, Cavalry, Artillery and regular infantry amongst others. And oh, some bicyle troops as well :)


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peter
29th Jan 2015 12:08:52

The limbers are actually in the pipeline and should be appearing in the next few weeks.   I've no immediate plans to add more cavalry types other than helmeted versions for later war.

As usual, not saying 'never', but it's a matter of priorities and we've loads of other goodies to get out for the period!

 


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pushing.tin
29th Jan 2015 02:00:38

Good news about the limbers, yes I imagine you have plenty planned already so anything in the pipeline already is definitely a bonus.

Of course the fact that lancers get a bonus in GWSH has nothing to do with my sudden interest in lance armed dragoons! (that's assuming they don't get mown down first...)

Seriously though, having looked into it a bit, French Cavalry divisions had one light brigade of chasseurs/hussars and two of either dragoons or cuirassiers. Cavalry attached to infantry divisions etc was mostly lights so I can see why you went for them.

If only the French and German cavalry had followed the British example and not insisted on funny headgear for their different types!

...so just sayin'....

 


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Roughage
29th Jan 2015 08:05:06

I could use a packet each of early war dismounted French cuirassiers and dismounted French dragoons for my 1914 French army. I might spring to two packets of each if we get a bit more Command Decision: Death of Glory played here.


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dourpuritan
30th Jan 2015 09:30:03

French dragoons and cuirassiers figure a lot in August/September 1914, but I can;t recall ever having seen a photo of French hussars or chasseurs from that period.


PM pushing.tin
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pushing.tin
30th Jan 2015 10:14:45

Perhaps the Dragoons with their lances and the Cuirassiers with their breastplates were more photogenic, or perhaps the lights were too busy doing all the fighting !

According to the Osprey men-at-arms book on the French army of ww1, all of the cavalry attached at Corps level and to Infantry Divisions were Chasseurs or Hussars. The Cavalry Divisions break down as follows:

1e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade

2e - 2 Dragoon Brigades, 1 Chasseur Brigade

3e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade, 1 Hussar Brigade

4e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade, 1 Hussar Brigade

5e - 2 Dragoon Brigades, 1 Chasseur Brigade

6e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade, 1 Light Brigade of 1 Hussar & 1 Chasseur Regiment

7e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade, 1 Light Brigade of 1 Hussar & 1 Chasseur Regiment

8e - 2 Dragoon Brigades, 1 Light Brigade of 1 Hussar & 1 Chasseur Regiment

9e - 1 Cuirassier Brigade, 1 Dragoon Brigade

10e - 2 Dragoon Brigades

Sordet's Cavalry Corps featuring in the first GWSH scenario book was the 1e, 3e and 5e Divisions so a mixture of all types but mostly heavies and, more importantly for GWSH, half were lance armed Dragoons so get a combat bonus!


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pushing.tin
30th Jan 2015 01:27:50

Well I think this website seems to be saying all French Divisional cavalry (presumably meaning cavalry in Cavalry Divisions, rather than assigned to Infantry Divisions or Corps? I'm afraid my French isn't that great...) was lance armed except the cuirassiers...

http://www.sambre-marne-yser.be/article=3.php3?id_article=101

Some interesting details of which regiment was assigned where as well...


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4th Feb 2015 09:12:15

You might want to have a look at the Napoleonic French line lancers or the  Piedmontese Heavy cavalry in the Risorgiment range. Lance armed cavalry with helmets. Not perfect and the will need a pennon removing, but under the circumstances....


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