Hi folks,

which Armies are in the SPQR Ruleset included?

nice Regards

Late Republican Roman ('Marian')

Early Imperial Roman

German

Gallic

Parthian

British

Numidian

Sarmatian

Dacian

Pontic

Spanish

I hope eventually they come out with rules to cover the Late Imperial Romans.  

I don't think it would have much difficulty in covering it as it is now.

Hello!

I recently got into the Polemos rule sets via Ruse de Guerre, which my friends and I have been enjoying greatly.

We quickly got most of the rest off Wargame Vault and were thinking of taking SPQR for a spin, but as we're mostly interested in the battles of the Polybian Roman armies of the mid-republic, we were wondering what the consensus was (if there was one!) in applying this ruleset to that era. Are there some unofficial army lists for the Punic Wars period floating around, or some agreed-upon way of adapting the ruleset to it?

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

I've never tried Punic Wars with any rule set, and don't know all that much about them, but the major issue is the Roman triple-line deployment.

I had two thoughts in dealing with this. The first was to ignore it and just deploy the hastati etc as you would normal spear-armed legionary bases. You might look at the interpenetration rules to see if they need modifying. 

The second idea is to mount Roman infantry on triple-depth bases with the three lines and give them a bonus or, better, better staying power - more levels of shaken can be sustained - to reflect the ability to relieve the front line. 

The more sceptical part of me wants to say that the deployment did not really make that much of a difference so can be ignored, but that might just be me.

Regards

David

Lee from Miniature Adventures bases his stuff like Polemos but plays To The Strongest. He based the Roman infantry on what seems to be 15x60mm bases and allows them to rotate. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5kIHD2Ng4E

I haven't played any of the Polemos rules yet and don't know any unoffical army list but I assume you can use the existing army lists to create fitting army lists. I suppose elephants might be the biggest hurdle. 

Thanks a bunch Berggeit!

I'll certainly look into To the Strongest, I've heard very good things about it.

Elephants are actually in the Polemos SPQR army lists. The only thing is that, since no mid-republican troops would legitimately count as legionaries by the rules definitions, then everybody and their uncle, from Carthaginian spearmen to the three Roman ranks, would either count as auxilia or stratiotas, both of which are dealt with identically in the rulebook anyway. This wouldn't make for the most exciting army lists I imagine.

We'll see what we can come up with.

Thanks again!

As an alternative to SPQR, you could give 'Age of Hannibal' by Little Wars TV a try. The designers used 6mm figures when creating the rules and the rules differentiate between different troop types, if that's a concern for you.