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Chad
13th Jan 2017 02:51:45

Can anyone suggest proxies for Russian infantry in the Crimean War? There do not seem to be any figures in greatcoats. There seem to be enough figures available that would pass for French and British.

Thanks

Chad

 


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dourpuritan
15th Jan 2017 02:06:45

NPR2 Prussian Reserve Infantry

NRU26 Russian Olpechnie - both these codes appear from the photos to be in greatcoat and soft cap and should therefore work as standard Russian infantry.


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njt236
30th Mar 2017 12:25:56

I was wondering what you guys think would be adequate  proxies for the Heavy and Light brigades, Russian artillery, cavalry and lancers at Balaclava. For the 17th lancers I was thinking FPW Prussian Uhlans. Light Dragoons and Hussars for the Light Brigade. Scots Greys for the Heavy Brigade from the Britsh Napoleonics. The rest of the Heavy Brigade Prussian Dragoons from the FPW.  Russian cavalry and Lancers not sure at the moment. Foot artillery Prussian from the FPW, as for the Russian horse artillery. ?????. I've seen some references that Russian infantry wore the FPW Prussian style helmet???

Thanking you in advance for some great ideas

Nigel


Through the travail of the ages Midst the pomp and toil of war Have I fought and strove and perished Countless times upon this star.
So as through a glass and darkly The age long strife I see Where I fought in many guises, Many names but always me.
So forever in the future Shall I battle as of yore, Dying to be born a fighter But to die again once more.         

                G S Patton

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dourpuritan
2nd Apr 2017 05:54:07

The Russians did also wear a spiked leather helmet in the Crimea, somewhat taller and with a longer spike than that sported by the Prussians in 1870. 


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Nick the Lemming
2nd Oct 2017 02:31:23

Reviving this thread: Can we come to some agreement on what we need and what best fits for each required troop?

 

I think this list is pretty much inclusive of every type of unit that fought in the Crimean War; if anyone thinks something is here that shouldn't be, or something is missing, please shout. I've given some suggestions as to proxies, but if anyone has better or extra ideas or doesn't think the suggestion fits, please say so, and if you have any suggestions for the gaps that can be filled in, also please say so.

 

British

 

Line Infantry in Albert shako NBR-1 British Line Inf in Stovepipe Shako?

Line Infantry in pork pie hat / forage cap NPR02 reserve Infantry? NPR03 Landwehr Infantry? NPR11 Prussian reserve Skirmishing?, NPR12 Prussian Landwehr Skirmishing?

Guards in Busby  FPF24 french Garde Grenadiers in bearskin?

Highlanders in feather bonnet NBR12 Highland Infantry? NBR13 Highland Infantry skirmishing

Rifles skirmishing NBR3 British Riflemen skirmishing?

Casualties NBR23 casualties

Field artillery NBR07C British foot atillery?

Horse artillery NFR33T French Guard foot artillery?

Limbers NFR15 French Napoleonic limbers?

Lancers FPF18 French lancers?

Hussars NBR19 Hussars Shako?

Light Dragoons NBR18 Light Dragoons shako?

Dragoon Guards NBR17 heavy dragoons helmet?

Scots Greys NBR20 Scots Greys

Officers (Raglan, Cardigan, Scarlett, Lucan, Cathcart, Cambridge, Campbell and aides) NBR09 British Generals? Too early?

 

French - use existing ranges from Risorgimento / FPW range.

 

Line Infantry in kepi FPF04 Imperial Infantry, Greatcoat, FPF06, Imperial Infantry, Tunic, FPF05 Imperial Infantry Greatcoat skirmishing, FPF07 Imperial Infantry Tunic skirmishing

Chasseur de pied skirmishing FPF05 Imperial Infantry Greatcoat skirmishing, FPF07 Imperial Infantry Tunic skirmishing

Guard Grenadier FPF01 Imperial Garde Grenadiers, FPF24 Imperial garde grenadiers bearskin

Guard Voltigeur FPF02 Imperial Garde Voltigeurs, FPF03 Garde Voltigeurs Skirmishing

Tirailleurs FPF08 Zouaves

Marines FPF04 Formed Infantry, greatcoat

Field artillery FPF19 French reserve artillery, FPF23 4 lber Field Artillery

Horse artillery As Foot artillery

Limbers FOF21 French limbers

Cuirassiers FPF14 French cuirassiers

Dragoons FPF15 French Dragoons

Chasseurs d'Afrique FPF17 French Chasseurs? or as Hussars?

Hussars FPF16 French Hussar

Spahis CMA03 Mahdist cavalry? or GWT14 Arab Irregular cavalry?

Zouaves FPF08 Zouaves, FPF09 Zouaves skirmishing

Foreign Legion As Chasseurs de pied?

Casualties ACW21 (kepis only)

Generals FPF22 French Generals

Were there any French Lancers?

 

Sardinian - use existing range from Risorgimento range.

 

Line infantry RSI01 Piedmontese Infatry

Grenadiers FPF24 French Garde Grenadiers Bearskin

Bersaglieri RSI03 Bersaglieri skirmishing

Heavy cavalry RSI04 Piedmontese Heavy Cavalry

Light cavalry RSI05 Piedmontese Light Cavalry

Field artillery RSI06 Field Artillery and RSI07 Reserve Artillery

Limbers Use French FPW limbers

Casualties NBR23 British Napoleonic?

Generals RSI08 Piedmontese Generals

 

Russian

 

Line Infantry in helmet FPP01 Prussian Infantry formed? FPP03 Prussian Infantry skirmishing

Line Infantry in cap NRU26 Olpechnie, Musket, NPR02 reserve Infantry? NPR03 Landwehr Infantry? NPR11 Prussian reserve Skirmishing?, NPR12 Prussian Landwehr Skirmishing?

Jaegers skirmishing NPR11 / NPR12 Prussian Napoleonic Landwehr / reserve skirmishing

Hussars NBR 19 British hussar in shako

Uhlans FPP0 Prussian Uhlans

Cossacks NRU13 Cossacks

Dragoons FPP06 Prussian Dragoons

Field artillery FPP08 Prussian 4 pdr Krupps? FPP12 Prussian 12lbers?

Horse artillery As field artillery

Cossack artillery NGF33T French Garde Foot artillery?

Limbers FPP09 Prussian limbers

Casualties ???

Generals FPP11 Prussian Generals?

Sailors NPR 2 / 3 Prussian Napoleonic Landwehr / Reserve

 

Ottoman

 

Turkish Infantry in fez CEG01 Egyptian Infantry?, CEG02 Egyptian Infantry Firing?

Turkish cavalry in fez FPF16 French Hussars or FPF17 French Chasseurs, with headgear filed down to resemble kepi

Field artillery FPF19 French field artillery with kepis filed down to resemble fez

Limbers FPF21 French limbers, with kepi filed down to resemble fez

Casualties As French, kepis filed down

Generals As French, with keps filed down?

Bashi Bazouks CMA03 Mahdist Cavalry? GWT14 Arab Irregular Cavalry? FPF09 for Bashi bazouks on foot?

 

Together we can come up with a decent proxy list, and anything that we need to complete the range (especially something like the Greatcoat Helmet Prussians that can be used for Russians too) can be added to the baccstarter lists.


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njt236
2nd Oct 2017 04:28:20

That was excellent.


Through the travail of the ages Midst the pomp and toil of war Have I fought and strove and perished Countless times upon this star.
So as through a glass and darkly The age long strife I see Where I fought in many guises, Many names but always me.
So forever in the future Shall I battle as of yore, Dying to be born a fighter But to die again once more.         

                G S Patton

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dourpuritan
2nd Oct 2017 04:34:42

Not sure about the Russian hussars as in the Crimea they wore a shako similar to the Napoleonic French shako. What about NBR 19 British hussar in shako (as the French is festooned with cords). Some illustrations of 1854 Russian hussars show them with the slung jacket.


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Nick the Lemming
2nd Oct 2017 05:21:40

Thanks dour, changed that one. All other suggestions gratefuly accepted.


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dourpuritan
3rd Oct 2017 07:24:44

Pelisse, that's the word I was looking for, pelisse!


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Nick the Lemming
3rd Oct 2017 12:22:38

Allo? You called for ze pelisse?

 


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